Plutarco Elias Calles leads by 6.8 pts · 2 figures compared

General · Modern

General · Modern
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Calles served as Governor of Sonora from 1915 to 1919, implementing radical reforms including land redistribution, anti-clerical laws, and labor rights. His governorship established him as a key figure in the Sonoran dynasty and a proponent of revolutionary change.
Calles was elected President of Mexico in 1924, serving until 1928. His administration continued revolutionary reforms, including land reform, labor rights, and secularization, but also faced opposition from the Catholic Church and conservative groups.
Calles enforced anti-clerical laws, including the Calles Law, which restricted the Catholic Church's role in society. This sparked the Cristero War (1926-1929), a violent rebellion by Catholic peasants against the state, resulting in tens of thousands of deaths.
After his presidency, Calles remained the de facto ruler of Mexico during the Maximato (1928-1934), controlling puppet presidents. He continued to influence policy, but his power waned as President L
Calles founded the National Revolutionary Party (PNR) in 1929, which later became the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI). This party dominated Mexican politics for over 70 years, institutionalizing the revolution's legacy and centralizing power.
President Sukarno signed the Supersemar order, delegating authority to General Suharto to restore order after the 30 September Movement. Suharto used this to ban the Communist Party, purge leftists, and gradually assume executive power, effectively beginning his New Order regime.
Suharto implemented the New Order's economic policies, focusing on foreign investment, agricultural self-sufficiency, and industrialization. The government achieved high growth rates, reduced poverty, and stabilized the economy, but also fostered crony capitalism and corruption.
Suharto ordered the invasion of East Timor after Portugal withdrew. Indonesian forces occupied the territory, leading to a 24-year occupation marked by widespread human rights abuses, including massacres and forced displacement, resulting in an estimated 100,000-200,000 deaths.
The Asian Financial Crisis devastated Indonesia's economy, leading to massive unemployment and food shortages. Widespread protests and riots forced Suharto to resign in May 1998 after 31 years in power, ending his authoritarian rule and ushering in the Reformasi era.
Calles was the ultimate institutional architect, while Suharto was just a glorified warlord with good tailoring. Calles didn't just grab power—he created the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) that ran Mexico for 71 years without him. That's legacy engineering. Suharto's Golkar party collapsed the moment his New Order crumbled in 1998. Calles understood you build a system, not a throne. Suharto built a throne and called it a system. There's your difference.
拿卡列斯跟苏哈托比?笑话!卡列斯好歹在墨西哥革命里站过队、流过血,苏哈托就是个日本扶持的伪军头子爬上去的。1938年卡列斯把石油收归国有时,苏哈托还在给荷兰人擦靴子呢!你要谈铁腕统治,卡列斯搞“最高元首时期”至少没搞家族垄断,苏哈托他六个娃全成亿万富翁——这叫制度?这叫腐败世袭!
This comparison is intellectually dishonest. You're comparing a 1920s institutional product with a 1960s Cold War warlord. Different contexts, different tools. But look at the numbers: Under Calles, Mexico's GDP growth averaged 1.8% annually (1924-1934). Under Suharto, Indonesia hit 7% annual growth for two decades. Calles built a party that lasted; Suharto built an economy that lifted 40 million people out of poverty. Which "system" served its people better? Don't confuse longevity with success
你们忽略了一个关键细节:卡列斯执政时搞了“国家革命党”,把地方军阀全收编进一个组织里——这是人类史上第一个成功的"一党制现代化模板",比列宁那套灵活十倍。苏哈托呢?1965年清共后搞的"新秩序"就是军管会的包装版。卡列斯的制度创新让墨西哥稳了半世纪,苏哈托的下台只用了三个月。这差距不在铁腕,在脑子。