Cao Cao leads by 20.3 pts · 2 figures compared

General · Ancient

General · Medieval
Cao Cao joined a coalition of regional warlords led by Yuan Shao to overthrow the tyrannical chancellor Dong Zhuo, who had seized control of the Han court. The coalition failed to coordinate effectively, but Cao Cao gained military experience and political reputation.
Cao Cao established military agricultural colonies (tuntian) to provide food for his army and refugees. Soldiers and peasants cultivated state-owned land, ensuring a stable food supply and economic base for his campaigns.
Cao Cao decisively defeated Yuan Shao's numerically superior army at Guandu. This victory eliminated his main rival in the north, allowing Cao Cao to consolidate control over the North China Plain and lay the foundation for the Kingdom of Wei.
Cao Cao's southern campaign was halted by the allied forces of Sun Quan and Liu Bei at the Battle of Red Cliffs. His fleet was destroyed by fire attack, forcing a retreat and preventing his unification of China, leading to the Three Kingdoms division.
Cao Cao was granted the title of Duke of Wei and later King of Wei by the Han emperor, effectively creating a semi-autonomous state within the empire. He established a capital at Ye and built a centralized administration, setting the stage for his son's usurpation.
Yang Su commanded Sui forces in campaigns against the Eastern Tujue (G
After Emperor Yang of Sui ascended the throne, his brother Yang Liang rebelled in Bingzhou. Yang Su led imperial forces against the rebellion, defeating Yang Liang's army and capturing him. This victory secured Emperor Yang's position and demonstrated Yang Su's military capability.
Emperor Yang ordered the construction of a new eastern capital at Luoyang. Yang Su was appointed as one of the supervisors of the massive project. The construction involved hundreds of thousands of laborers and was completed in about a year, but at great human cost.
Yang Su was appointed Grand Chancellor (Shangshu Ling), the highest civil office in the Sui government. This position made him the chief minister of the empire, responsible for overseeing the Six Ministries. He held this office until his death in 606.
Yang Su died in 606 AD. Emperor Yang of Sui granted him posthumous honors, including the title of Duke of Yue and the posthumous name Jingwu. However, after Yang Su's death, Emperor Yang became suspicious of his sons and had them executed, leading to the downfall of Yang Su's family.
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Yang Su is the most underrated badass in Chinese history! People sleep on him because they're too busy drooling over Cao Cao's poetry. But let's be real—Cao Cao lost at Chibi because he couldn't adapt to river warfare. Yang Su? He literally built a fleet and crushed the Chen dynasty in a single campaign. His "iron triangle" tactic of mixing cavalry, infantry, and ships was ahead of its time. Cao Cao had a bigger legacy, sure, but Yang Su was the better pure general. Fight me on this.
这个评分系统把曹操放在杨素之上,我觉得还是有点西方中心论的味道。曹操在三国时期的政治手腕确实高,但杨素在隋朝的实际权力运作中更有效率——他帮杨坚平定江南,又替杨广镇守北疆,几乎没失过手。西方评价体系太看重‘文化影响力’和‘后世知名度’,所以曹操靠《三国演义》加分。但若论真正的军政全能,杨素不输。你看他打陈朝时水陆并进、一夜破城,这种多兵种协同作战的能力,在当时的中国是顶尖的。
这个总分系统有问题。军事分曹操89对杨素82,但我查《隋书》和《三国志》,杨素一生参与的大小战役超过40场,胜率高达95%以上,而曹操在赤壁、濮阳、宛城都吃过败仗。如果按‘胜率加权法’重新计算,杨素军事分至少应到88。政治分杨素77对曹操73还算合理,但影响力分曹操78对杨素70明显偏高——杨素的‘平陈战略’直接影响了隋唐两代的南北整合,这种制度性影响比几首诗歌更深远。建议重算。