Basarab I leads by 8.1 pts · 2 figures compared

Emperor · Medieval

Emperor · Medieval
Basarab I unified the Romanian lands east of the Olt River and south of the Carpathians, establishing the independent principality of Wallachia. He broke away from Hungarian suzerainty, laying the foundation for the medieval Romanian state.
Basarab was initially recognized as a Hungarian vassal, receiving the title of Voivode from King Charles I. This formalized his rule over the region, though he later rebelled against Hungarian authority.
Basarab I defeated the Hungarian army of King Charles I at the Battle of Posada. The Hungarian forces were ambushed in a narrow mountain pass, resulting in a decisive Wallachian victory that secured Wallachia's independence from Hungary.
After the Battle of Posada, Basarab I extended Wallachian control to the Danube River, including the important fortress of Severin. This expansion secured Wallachia's southern border and access to trade routes.
Wang Shichong, a Sui general, staged a coup in Luoyang, killing the Sui regent and declaring himself emperor of the short-lived Zheng dynasty. This act solidified his control over the eastern capital and challenged the Tang dynasty's claim to rule.
Wang Shichong's forces were decisively defeated by Li Shimin's Tang army at Hulao Pass. The defeat led to the collapse of the Zheng dynasty and Wang Shichong's capture, ending his bid for imperial power.
After his capture at Hulao, Wang Shichong was executed by the Tang dynasty. His death marked the end of the Zheng dynasty and removed a major rival to Tang control over the central plains.
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I call BS on these scores. Military score 94 vs 92? Wang Shichong held Luoyang against Li Shimin, one of China's greatest generals, for months. Basarab I ambushed a Hungarian king who was literally camping in a mountain pass with no scouts. One is a sustained defensive masterclass against a top-tier adversary, the other is a lucky ambush that any half-decent commander could've pulled off. And influence 84 vs 80? Seriously? Wang's resistance forced Li Shimin to adopt more lenient policies toward defeated rivals, which shaped Tang governance for centuries. You can't quantify that with a spreadsheet. This methodology reeks of Western bias toward medieval European 'founding fathers' while dismissing Chinese historical complexity.
评分体系问题很大。军事分94对92?王世充在洛阳保卫战中多次击退李世民,后者可是公认的军事天才。而巴萨拉布一世的波萨达战役,本质上是一次伏击战,规模不过数千人。政治分86对88就更离谱了。王世充在隋末乱世中建立郑国,虽然只维持了三年,但他在洛阳推行的经济政策——比如铸币改革——至少稳定了局部市场。巴萨拉布一世跟金帐汗国结盟,这算什么政治智慧?蒙古人从不白帮忙,他不过是换了主子。我算了下,如果按中国史书评价标准,王世充的政治分至少应该高出10分,因为他的统治时间虽短,但在极端混乱中维持了洛阳的秩序。这种打分明显低估了中国乱世中的治理难度。
这种比较根本不在一个维度上。王世充是隋唐转型期的关键人物,他面对的是李密、窦建德、李世民等多股势力——随便一个放在欧洲都是国王级别的对手。而巴萨拉布一世只对付了匈牙利一个王国。王世充的军事才能在洛阳保卫战中展现得淋漓尽致,他利用城内粮草和城外援军配合,差点让李世民铩羽而归。缺乏中文史料的人才觉得巴萨拉布更厉害。波萨达战役在中文语境里充其量是个地方性事件,而王世充的兴衰直接影响了中国历史上最伟大的王朝之一——唐朝的建立。西方学者总喜欢拔高类似巴萨拉布这种‘民族独立英雄’,却看不懂中国乱世中各方博弈的复杂性和深度。
Are we seriously pretending Wang Shichong is comparable to Basarab I? Posada was a masterpiece! Charles I of Hungary had a heavily armored knight army that had never lost a battle in the Carpathians, and Basarab lured them into a narrow gorge, then rolled boulders down and shot them with arrows from the cliffs. It's basically the medieval equivalent of ambushing a modern tank column in a canyon. That took strategic genius, not just defensive stubbornness like Wang sitting in Luoyang. And Basarab founded a country that lasted 500 years! Wang's 'dynasty' was a footnote that ended before most of us finish college. Give me the guy who built something permanent over the guy who just delayed the inevitable. Basarab all the way!