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Try Sutrisno vs Ye Jianying
Ye Jianying leads by 11.2 pts · 2 figures compared
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Try Sutrisno
General · Modern
46.9Total
Ye Jianying
General · Modern
58.1Total
Basic Information
Born
1935
1897
Died
—
1986
Era
Modern
Modern
Nationality
Indonesia
China
Occupation
General
General
Civilization
Eastern
Eastern
Score Comparison
Military (10%)
46.7
40.0
Political (20%)
45.1
53.8
Influence (20%)
51.0
58.0
Legacy (20%)
41.7
54.0
Leadership (15%)
53.2
85.0
Strategy (15%)
43.3
52.5
TOTAL
46.9
58.1
Try Sutrisno — Complete Timeline
1984 AD
Led the Suppression of the Tanjung Priok IncidentWar◆ Major
As Jakarta Military Commander, Sutrisno oversaw the military response to a protest in Tanjung Priok, which resulted in dozens of deaths. The incident was a violent suppression of Islamic dissent.
Tanjung PriokSuppressionMilitary
Impact: nationaltragic
1993 AD
Appointed Vice President of IndonesiaPolitical Action◆ Major
Try Sutrisno was appointed Vice President of Indonesia under President Suharto. His selection reflected the military's continued influence in the New Order government.
Vice PresidentNew OrderSuharto
Impact: national
1998 AD
Ran for President in 1998Political Action
After Suharto's resignation, Try Sutrisno ran for president in the 1998 MPR session but lost to B.J. Habibie. His candidacy represented the military's attempt to retain power in the post-Suharto era.
Presidential Election1998Military
Impact: national
Ye Jianying — Complete Timeline
1976 AD
Arrest of the Gang of FourPolitical Action
Ye Jianying, as a senior marshal and Politburo member, coordinated with Hua Guofeng to arrest the Gang of Four. This ended the Cultural Revolution and led to the rehabilitation of many officials.
Cultural RevolutionPower Struggle
Impact: nationalconstructive
1977 AD
Supported Deng Xiaoping's ReturnPolitical Action◆ Major
Ye Jianying was instrumental in reinstating Deng Xiaoping to his posts after the Cultural Revolution. This paved the way for Deng's economic reforms and China's opening up.
Political RehabilitationReform Era
Impact: nationalconstructive
1978 AD
Appointed Chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People's CongressPolitical Action◆ Major
Ye Jianying became the head of China's legislature. He oversaw the drafting of the 1982 Constitution and promoted legal reforms, including the establishment of the Special Economic Zones.
Legal ReformConstitution
Impact: nationalconstructive
Expert Analysis
Origins
Try Sutrisno was born in 1935 in Surabaya, Dutch East Indies. He attended the Indonesian Military Academy and served in the army. His early career was shaped by the Guided Democracy era and the rise of Suharto's New Order. Ye Jianying was born in 1897 in Meizhou, Guangdong, China. He studied at the Yunnan Military Academy and joined the Chinese Communist Party in 1927. His early experiences included the Northern Expedition and the Long March, which forged his loyalty to the Party.
Rise to Power
Sutrisno rose through the ranks during the New Order, becoming Jakarta Military Commander in 1983. He gained prominence after overseeing the response to the Tanjung Priok incident in 1984, which resulted in dozens of deaths. He was appointed Vice President of Indonesia in 1993, serving under Suharto until 1998. Ye Jianying's rise was tied to his military contributions in the Chinese Civil War and his role in the Cultural Revolution. He became a Marshal in 1955 and a Politburo member. His decisive moment came in 1976 when he coordinated with Hua Guofeng to arrest the Gang of Four, ending the Cultural Revolution.
Leadership & Governance
Sutrisno's leadership style was authoritarian and military-oriented. As Vice President, he focused on maintaining order and supported Suharto's developmental policies. His governance was marked by a lack of democratic reforms and reliance on military force. Ye Jianying's leadership was more political and institutional. As Chairman of the NPC Standing Committee (1978-1983), he oversaw the drafting of the 1982 Constitution and promoted legal reforms, including the establishment of a socialist legal system. He scored 85.0 in leadership, reflecting his ability to navigate political transitions, compared to Sutrisno's 53.2.
Triumph & Tragedy
Sutrisno's greatest success was his appointment as Vice President, symbolizing military influence in politics. However, his involvement in the Tanjung Priok incident remains a tragedy, leading to accusations of human rights abuses. He also ran for president in 1998 but lost to B.J. Habibie, marking a failure to secure power. Ye Jianying's triumph was the arrest of the Gang of Four, which ended the Cultural Revolution and paved the way for Deng Xiaoping's reforms. He also supported Deng's return to power. However, his failure to prevent the excesses of the Cultural Revolution earlier and his role in purges during the 1960s are criticized.
Character & Destiny
Sutrisno was a loyal military officer who prioritized order and stability. His decision-making was shaped by his military background and Suharto's patronage. This led to a destiny tied to the New Order's decline. Ye Jianying was a pragmatic and cautious political operator. He survived multiple purges by aligning with shifting factions. His character allowed him to play a key role in China's transition from Maoism to reform, but his lack of independent vision limited his legacy.
Legacy
Sutrisno's legacy is mixed: he is remembered as a military figure who upheld Suharto's authoritarian rule, but his role in human rights abuses tarnishes his reputation. His influence score of 51.0 reflects limited lasting impact. Ye Jianying's legacy is more positive: he is credited with restoring stability and legal order in China. His support for Deng's reforms helped transform China into an economic powerhouse. His legacy score of 54.0 is higher, but he remains overshadowed by Mao and Deng.
Conclusion
Ye Jianying had a greater impact than Try Sutrisno, with a total score of 58.1 vs 46.9. While both were military figures, Ye's actions at a critical juncture—arresting the Gang of Four and supporting Deng—changed China's trajectory. Sutrisno's role was limited to maintaining an authoritarian system that eventually collapsed. Ye's 85.0 in leadership and 54.0 in legacy demonstrate his superior influence on national and global history.
Rankings
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Ye JianyingLeader
Mil: 40.0Pol: 53.8Inf: 58.0
58.1
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Try Sutrisno
Mil: 46.7Pol: 45.1Inf: 51.0
46.9
+11.2 behind
How This Comparison Works
Algorithm
Each figure is scored on 6 dimensions (0—100 scale) based on structured historical data: Military (10%), Political (20%), Influence (20%), Legacy (20%), Leadership (15%), Strategy (15%). The weighted total produces the final ranking.
Data Sources
Scores are computed from structured sub-indicators in the database. Scale factors adjust for era (Ancient ×0.85, Modern ×1.0) and civilization size (Eastern ×1.05, Other ×0.80) to account for differences in population and military scale.
Maximum 3 Figures
Comparisons are limited to 2—3 figures to ensure readability and statistical meaningfulness.
Error Margins
±5 points per dimension — Sub-scores are derived from historical records with inherent uncertainty. Two figures within 5 points on a dimension should be considered roughly equivalent in that area.
Total Score Accuracy
±3 points overall — The weighted combination of 6 dimensions produces a total score with approximately ±3 points of uncertainty. Differences of less than 3 points are not statistically significant— the figures are effectively tied.
Known Limitations
- Historical records are incomplete and uneven across civilizations
- Figures from oral-tradition societies may be underrepresented
- Occupation labels can misclassify multi-role figures
- Scores measure capability and impact, not moral character
- Quantitative scoring is a comparison tool, not absolute truth
Capability Radar
Military (10%) — Battles & Warfare
Battles
30
45
Win Rate
35
50
Expansion
20
30
Political (20%) — Governance & Reform
Reform
30
50
Diplomacy
40
70
Economy
25
40
Influence (20%) — Cultural & Global Reach
Cultural
20
40
Global
15
40
Legacy (20%) — Historical Impact
Historical
25
60
Longevity
15
45
Leadership (15%) — Power & Stability
Tenure
55
65
Stability
45
75
Strategy (15%) — Tactics & Innovation
Strategy
40
60
Tactics
40
55
Reform
25
40
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