Cyrus the Great leads by 8.1 pts · 2 figures compared

Emperor · Ancient

Emperor · Medieval
Cyrus led a rebellion against the Median Empire, defeating King Astyages and capturing Ecbatana. He then united the Persian and Median tribes, establishing the Achaemenid Empire, which became the largest empire the world had yet seen.
Cyrus defeated King Croesus of Lydia at the Battle of Thymbra. The Lydian capital Sardis was captured, and Croesus was taken prisoner. This conquest brought Anatolia under Persian control and secured access to the Aegean coast.
Cyrus the Great led the Persian army to capture Babylon without significant battle. The city's gates were opened, and Cyrus entered peacefully. This conquest added Mesopotamia to the Achaemenid Empire and marked the end of the Neo-Babylonian Empire.
After conquering Babylon, Cyrus issued a clay cylinder inscribed with a declaration. It described his policy of restoring temples, repatriating displaced peoples, and allowing religious freedom. The cylinder is often cited as an early charter of human rights.
Cyrus issued an edict allowing the Jewish exiles in Babylon to return to Jerusalem and rebuild the Temple. This event is recorded in the biblical Book of Ezra and is a key moment in Jewish history, ending the Babylonian captivity.
Yi Seong-gye led Goryeo forces against Japanese pirates (wokou) at the Battle of Hwangsan. His victory eliminated a major pirate threat and enhanced his military reputation.
Yi Seong-gye turned his army back at Wihwado Island rather than invade Ming China as ordered by the Goryeo court. This act of defiance led to a coup that eventually brought him to power.
Yi Seong-gye overthrew the Goryeo dynasty and founded the Joseon dynasty, becoming King Taejo. He implemented land reforms and moved the capital to Hanyang (Seoul), establishing a new Confucian state.
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Cyrus the Great absolutely dusts Yi Seong-gye in any real historical ranking! The guy conquered THREE major empires—Medes, Lydians, Babylonians—and actually let people keep their gods and customs! That's like if someone today annexed three countries and said 'keep your religions, keep your kings, just pay taxes.' The Cyrus Cylinder is literally the first human rights charter! Yi Seong-gye overthrew his own king and set up a Confucian bureaucracy that got bogged down in factional squabbling within a generation. Yeah, Joseon lasted 500 years, but Cyrus's model of tolerance inspired everyone from Alexander to the Founding Fathers. The 79.6 vs 77.6 score is way too close—Cyrus should be crushing him by at least 10 points!
Okay so I just finished that Tom Holland book on Persia and now I'm reading about Korean history, and honestly I think Yi Seong-gye is massively underrated here. Everyone talks about Cyrus and his cylinder, but Yi literally turned a whole army around at the Wihwado Retreat—that's like if a general said 'nope, not fighting for this corrupt king anymore' and marched his troops back to start a revolution. And the guy crushed Jurchen nomads AND Japanese pirates? That's fighting on two fronts before it was cool. Cyrus was brilliant, sure, but his empire fell apart after a couple hundred years. Joseon lasted FIVE CENTURIES and basically created modern Korea. I'd give Yi the edge on legacy, no question.
评分系统很有意思,但我有几个疑问。首先,军事分给Yi Seong-gye 90,而Cyrus只有82?Cyrus征服了米底、吕底亚和巴比伦,这些都是当时最强大的国家,而且他用了创新的围城战术,比如在巴比伦城下挖河道。Yi Seong-gye主要是打败了女真人和倭寇,规模完全不是一个等级。其次,政治分Cyrus 85 vs Yi 78?Cyrus建立的多元文化帝国稳定运作了几十年,而朝鲜王朝刚建立就陷入士林派系的斗争。我个人觉得,如果按照中国历史上的标准,比如秦始皇统一六国的难度,Cyrus应该更高才对。
I call BS on these numbers. How do you even quantify 'influence' for a guy who lived 2500 years ago vs someone from 600 years ago? The historical record for Cyrus is literally fragments from Greek historians and biblical references—we don't know half of what he actually did. Meanwhile Yi Seong-gye has detailed Korean court records. Of course the scores favor the one with better documentation! And 'Legacy' being 80 vs 74? That's absurd—Cyrus is mentioned in the Bible, the Torah, and Iranian national myth, while most people outside Korea have never heard of Yi. The weighting system is clearly biased toward modern national impact over global historical significance. You can't reduce these guys to numbers.
从中国历史的角度来看,这个比较很有趣,但有点西方中心主义。Cyrus的宽容政策确实先进,但中国读者会想到唐太宗的'天可汗'体系,同样是对多民族文化的包容。而Yi Seong-gye的朝鲜王朝,本质上更像明朝的一个缩小版——用儒家官僚系统来统治,最终因为士林党争而衰落。Cyrus在军事上更像漢武帝,征服广阔领土但帝国快速崩溃;而Yi Seong-gye更像劉邦,开国后建立稳定的王朝体系。如果要给分,我会给Cyrus军事更高分(比如90),因为他征服的领土更广、敌人更强;但政治分上,Yi Seong-gye也应该更高(比如88),因为他建立的制度寿命长达500年。这个评分系统把Cyrus的军事分压得太低了。