Baybars leads by 0.4 pts · 2 figures compared

Emperor · Medieval

Emperor · Medieval
Baybars served as a key commander under Qutuz at the Battle of Ain Jalut. He led the vanguard and played a crucial role in the Mamluk victory over the Mongols. This battle established his reputation as a military leader.
After assassinating Qutuz, Baybars proclaimed himself Sultan of Egypt. He was accepted by the Mamluk commanders and the Abbasid Caliph. His reign began a period of Mamluk dominance in the Middle East, lasting for decades.
Baybars launched a series of campaigns against the remaining Crusader states in the Levant. He captured key fortresses including Arsuf (1265), Safed (1266), Jaffa (1268), and Antioch (1268). These victories reduced Crusader territory to a few coastal enclaves.
Baybars defeated a Mongol army at the Battle of Elbistan in Anatolia. He invaded the Seljuk Sultanate of Rum, which was under Mongol suzerainty. Although a tactical victory, Baybars could not hold Anatolia and returned to Syria.
Baybars died in Damascus, possibly from poisoning or illness. His death was kept secret for a time to prevent unrest. He was succeeded by his son Al-Said Barakah. Baybars' reign is considered the peak of the early Mamluk Sultanate.
Aguda's Jurchen forces defeated a Liao army at Hubudagang, marking the first major victory of the rebellion. This battle demonstrated Jurchen military prowess and attracted more followers.
Wanyan Aguda united the Jurchen tribes under his leadership, creating a confederation that rebelled against Liao domination. He organized a disciplined army and began the Jurchen revolt.
Wanyan Aguda proclaimed himself emperor, founding the Jin dynasty. He adopted the Chinese title and began a systematic campaign to conquer the Liao empire.
Aguda's forces captured the Liao supreme capital Shangjing, dealing a severe blow to the Liao dynasty. This victory accelerated the collapse of Liao and solidified Jin control over northern China.
Aguda formed an alliance with the Northern Song dynasty to jointly attack the Liao empire. This alliance, known as the Maritime Alliance, led to the eventual destruction of Liao but later caused conflict between Jin and Song.
Wanyan Aguda died, and his brother Wanyan Wuqimai succeeded him. Aguda's conquests laid the foundation for the Jin dynasty's dominance in northern China.
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Are you kidding me? Baybars only gets 86 in military while Aguda gets 91? Look, I respect the Jurchen war machine but Baybars was the Mongol slayer! He crushed the supposedly invincible Mongol army at Ain Jalut in 1260, and that was just the beginning. He spent the next 17 years systematically dismantling Crusader states like they were sandcastles — Antioch fell in 1268 in three days! Meanwhile Aguda's biggest win was catching the Liao emperor with his pants down. Baybars was fighting the two most feared military powers of the 13th century simultaneously and winning. That's not 86 material, that's 95. The only reason Aguda gets the edge here is because Chinese history nerds love their "founding emperor" narratives. Baybars was the greatest general of his generation, period. Don't @ me.
每次看到这种比较就忍不住想吐槽,西方历史学者总是低估阿骨打的地位。完颜阿骨打可不是什么“区域型”人物,他灭辽建金,直接改变了东亚政治格局。你们把Baybars捧成“马穆鲁克奠基人”,但阿骨打开创的女真-金朝统治中原一百多年,影响了后来的元朝和明朝。说Baybars政治84分?阿骨打才82分?阿骨打以两千五百人起兵,几年内就灭掉了号称百万的辽国,这政治手腕和战略眼光放在欧亚大陆也是顶级的。Baybars再牛也就在埃及叙利亚一带折腾,阿骨打可是掀翻了一个横跨东亚的大帝国。
仔细看这份评分,军事上阿骨打91比Baybars86,这5分差距可以接受。但政治分给阿骨打84、Baybars87,这就有点荒谬了。我从《金史》统计过,阿骨打从1114年出河店之战到1123年去世,不到十年完成了部落统一、灭辽建国三大任务,期间没有发生一次内部叛乱。你再看看Baybars,他弑杀了前任苏丹忽都斯上位,后来又清洗了多位将领,统治期间暗杀不断。按照我的算法,政治稳定性一项阿骨打就该高出至少10分。至于影响力,阿骨打87对Baybars71,这个比例倒是合理,但实际差距应该更大——金朝的制度后来被元朝继承,而Baybars建立的制度在Qalawun上台后就被改得面目全非了。总体得分我算出来是阿骨打78.6对Baybars71.4,比这个表更符合史实。