Alexander the Great leads by 21.9 pts · 2 figures compared

General · Ancient

Emperor · Medieval
Alexander led his Macedonian army across the Hellespont into Asia Minor and defeated a Persian force under local satraps at the Granicus River. The victory secured Alexander's foothold in Asia and demonstrated his tactical superiority, opening the way for the conquest of the Persian Empire.
Alexander's army defeated the Persian king Darius III at Issus in Cilicia. Despite being outnumbered, Alexander's tactical use of the terrain and cavalry charge broke the Persian line. Darius fled the battlefield, leaving his family and treasury behind, a major blow to Persian morale.
Alexander besieged the island city of Tyre for seven months, constructing a causeway to breach its walls. The city's fall resulted in the massacre or enslavement of its inhabitants. The siege demonstrated Alexander's determination and engineering capabilities, securing his supply lines and control of the eastern Mediterranean coast.
Alexander faced Darius III at Gaugamela in Mesopotamia with a massive Persian army. Alexander's tactical brilliance, including a decisive cavalry charge that exploited a gap in the Persian line, resulted in a decisive Macedonian victory. Darius again fled, effectively ending Persian resistance and leading to the fall of the Achaemenid Empire.
Alexander founded the city of Alexandria on the Mediterranean coast of Egypt. He personally selected the site and oversaw the initial planning. Alexandria became a major center of Hellenistic culture, trade, and learning, housing the famous Library of Alexandria and the Lighthouse of Alexandria.
Alexander crossed the Indus River and defeated King Porus at the Battle of the Hydaspes. The Macedonian army, exhausted and facing monsoon rains and unfamiliar warfare, mutinied at the Hyphasis River, forcing Alexander to turn back. This campaign marked the easternmost extent of his conquests.
Louis IX led the Seventh Crusade to Egypt, capturing Damietta in 1249. The campaign ended in disaster at the Battle of Al-Mansurah in 1250, where Louis was captured and later ransomed for a huge sum.
Louis IX implemented judicial and administrative reforms in France, including the establishment of the Parlement of Paris and the prohibition of private warfare. These measures strengthened royal authority and centralized justice.
Louis IX signed the Treaty of Paris with Henry III of England, ending the conflict between the Capetian and Plantagenet dynasties. The treaty confirmed French control over Normandy, Anjou, and Poitou in exchange for English recognition.
Louis IX launched the Eighth Crusade, targeting Tunis in North Africa. The crusade was cut short by an outbreak of disease; Louis died of dysentery outside Tunis, ending the campaign without significant military action.
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The military score gap here is too narrow. Louis IX led two failed Crusades—he was captured at Mansurah in 1250 after his army got bogged down in Nile canals, and the Eighth Crusade ended with his death from disease in Tunis. Compare that to Alexander never losing a battle across 15 years of campaigning, from Granicus to Hydaspes, using combined-arms tactics that were centuries ahead of their time. Louis’s 91 to Alexander’s 96 implies near-parity, but that doesn’t hold when you look at campaign success rates, territorial gains, or tactical innovation. Alexander’s siege of Tyre alone required more engineering skill than Louis’s entire military career. The scoring system seems to reward piety and personal bravery over actual results.
This scoring feels like comparing apples to oranges using a ruler. Louis gets a 65 Political? That’s generous given he was a medieval king governing a small, homogenous realm with church backing—hardly a challenge compared to Alexander holding together Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, and Indians. And Alexander’s Influence at 90—what’s the baseline? If you weigh cultural diffusion, sure, but Louis’s legal reforms directly shaped French law for 500 years. The problem is these dimensions aren’t independent: Alexander’s military conquests inflate his Influence, while Louis’s political stability gets discounted because his wars failed. The summary admits a tie but the numbers tell a different story. I’d like to see the raw data and how they normalized for era and scope.
这个评分体系存在根本性问题。军事维度:路易九世91分,亚历山大大帝96分——差距只有5分,但战役成功率差距巨大。路易两次十字军东征均以失败告终,而亚历山大从格拉尼库斯到海达斯佩斯,十五年间未尝败绩。如果引入“征服面积/时间”指标,亚历山大是每分钟约0.3平方公里,路易几乎为零。政治维度:路易65分,亚历山大65分——但亚历山大的帝国在他死后立即分裂,而法兰西王国在路易之后持续强盛。我怀疑评分者没有区分“个人政治能力”与“所处时代稳定性”。按照中国史学的标准,路易应类比宋仁宗,注重文治;亚历山大则类似汉武帝,开疆拓土但后继无人。这两个维度权重应该重新分配,否则结论不可靠。
把路易九世和亚历山大放在一起比,就像把唐太宗和匈奴冒顿单于比较——根本不在同一个评判体系里。路易是圣王典范,类似中国历史上的周文王,以德治国、法律改革、宗教虔诚被后世称颂;亚历山大则是征服者,更像成吉思汗,靠军事扩张留下文化影响的混合体。西方评分给亚历山大军事96分,但你们看看蒙古西征,成吉思汗的版图比亚历山大大几倍,也没见分数更高。另外,路易的政治65分明显低估了——他在法国中央集权、限制贵族权力方面的成就,类似于汉武帝推恩令的效果,只是手段温和。这场比较暴露了西方中心论的缺陷:用征服规模衡量一切,却轻视了治国安邦的持久价值。
Fascinating comparison. What the scores don't capture is charisma — Louis IX of France's ability to inspire almost religious devotion among followers. Some things can't be quantified.
Strategy score undervalues Alexander the Great. The tactical innovations they introduced are still taught in military academies today. France was good but not revolutionary.
战略评分完全同意. Alexander the Great的战术创新确实改变了战争方式,这在数据中体现得很好.
从政治学角度看,Louis IX of France的制度建设能力被低估了. 虽然统治时间短,但制度遗产的影响力持续了上千年.
I disagree with the conclusion. Alexander the Great faced existential threats that Louis IX of France never encountered. You can't compare peacetime administration with crisis management on raw numbers alone.
Louis IX of France的军事评分太高了,Alexander the Great面对的对手强大多了. 不能只看胜率,还要看对手质量.